Why Men Fall into the Trap of Matriarchy

aus: Pooks Mill

At a time when everyone seemingly dons tattered arrogant souls, when, in order to feast on the height of their self-seen greatness, everyone yields to their usual brainwashed tropes. In the Matriarchy, there are two: the Grand Career and the Grand Household.

The Grand Career is not a ?job? but something more ?glorious?. A plumber is a job, but a lawyer is a ?career?. Never-mind that a plumber can get good money and adds more to society than many lawyers, the difference between a ?job? and ?career? these days is image. Women, who worship the image, will excitedly pursue these careers. But in the end, a ?career? in that traditional sense is often a losing situation. It is the trap of the Wage Slave.

The Grand Household (notice how I did not say ?Grand Family?) is the big McMansion, this is the Perfect Wedding, and this is the 1.6 kids with a 1.1 dog. Not only women desire this but so do many men. Some prefer the Grand Household over the Grand Career and vice versa (many women want both). But both of these are life not coming from your soul, from YOU BEING YOU, but from a pre-existing template.

I wondered, ?How can people live their lives refusing to be who they are, by rejecting their own soul and passion by desiring a pre-made life?? The answer is that they all see the Grand Career and Grand Household as THE SUCCESS. Everyone is scared of being seen a ?loser? so they all desire ?success? (which is why woman?s biggest shame tactic is saying a guy lives with Mom at home. While there is nothing to envy in this man?s position, it is highly preferable than to be a man convicted of murder, of crimes, of furious sins, yet these are the ?men? many skanks desire due to the rebellious image they hold.)

Is a Grand Career the ?true success?? Maybe, if it is truly what you love to do. But keep in mind that there is no job security these days. You can easily get fired from your job. And no matter how much money you earn on your ?Grand Career?, the owners of the business always make more. You will never become rich by having the ?Grand Career? (unless you become some star like a famous actor and the probability of that occurring is very low). Why should I invest my life in making someone else rich? Why not invest my life in making MYSELF rich?

Is the Grand Household the ?true success?? Again, maybe, if it is truly what you want. But also keep in mind that everyone else has the same cookie-cutter home with a similar dog. If this wasn?t the case, then why would sitcoms prove to be so universal? Also, again, this is the life of image. It is the picture of the ?family? (with dog) sitting on the fireplace mantle. Can your life be defined by a picture? Many people think so.

Women get sucked into the Matriarchy for the obvious reasons. But why do men (especially in the Anglosphere) get sucked into the Matriarchy?

1) They have no passion in life. They have no dreams, no goals, no vision. They do have sexual desire which is the closest they?ve felt to passion. In fact, they misuse the word ?passion? as to mean sexual desire. If your passion in life is only women, you will be sucked into the Matriarchy.

2) They have small souls and desire validation. Sexual desire can be treated in numerous ways: masturbation, pornos, prostitutes, visiting other countries, and so on and so on. Women will employ shame tactics against any way that doesn?t benefit them. The Way is HER way. Marriage is usually the only proper way for her. In the last few decades, even the ?player? is now considered ?proper? by women. Many women do want no-strings attached sex and players easily provide it. Players also are ones who desire validation. They seek only sexual validation, however and, like the Nice Guy, have a very small soul (since they are so easily manipulated even though they think it is the other way around).

3) They see progress only with their eyes. Many people are not interested in becoming rich. They are only interested in LOOKING rich. This is why many go into massive debt buying a fancy new car, huge house, or something else trivial. Real wealth is time. But you cannot see ?time? so people never consider their most precious asset. Although I love my father much, he was very foolish with his time. Where I grew up, we had acres that had to be cut. I hated cutting all that lawn. My father, however, loved it. The reason why was that he could SEE the difference of cutting. This explains why I think many people LOVE yard-work or housework. It also explains why people will invest hours into MMORPGs but not the usual video game. Other people can SEE their ?improvements? in the MMORPG while in the usual video game one remains invisible. The Matriarchy worships the visible, not the invisible. The visible components are all celebrated (materialism, the ?compassion? traits of religion) but not the invisible (the thinking, the intelligence, or even religion?s worship of the spirit). Body building gains so much fandom from girls because they can SEE it. Body building, to me, is much easier than say reading ancient history or understanding business. Yet, the Matriarchy yields to the visible, not the invisible. Men, who think progress is only detected through the eyes, are destined for the Matriarchy.

4) Men desire the X, Y, Z lifestyle. As children, through school and through jobs, we are taught to think in the X, Y, Z fashion. This means that in order to reach the conclusion, we must do X, then Y, and then finally Z. This is the ?step by step? book. This is also the instruction manual. Many men find this linear style thinking relaxing and orderly. But this is the thinking of a slave, not a free man. In freedom, there is no X, Y, Z life. There is no ladder. Men who think this way yearn for a system to work within. With women, they want to work the system and WIN with women doing the X, Y, Z steps. On Sosuave, I was constantly flooded with private messages asking ?WHY DON?T YOU GIVE ME DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS!? STOP WITH THIS GENERALIZED TALK!!!? What they were truly asking me was, ?Tell me the rules that are to be obeyed to have success.? I inform them, ?It is time for you to create your own rules for life. If you do not, you will enter the woman?s rules by default.? These ?woman?s rules? are the Matriarchy.

5) Many men worship sex and female companionship as if it were the greatest achievement in life, that it alone makes them a ?man?. I am always amazed at the vagina worship by young males. However, don?t bother to criticize this view as these type of men are very sensitive and will lash back, ?Don?t you enjoy getting laid?? These men foolishly believe that winning with women is the same as winning with life. It isn?t. You can win with women and still lose in life. Somehow, someway, placing one?s male appendage into a woman?s yahoo has been made out to be the ?height of manhood?. I blame movies and modern music for this. The only ?sexual revolution? has been the complete annihilation of fertility. I get a chuckle when young people today say that people in the 40s and 50s were puritanical and didn?t have sex. Where did the Baby Boom generation come from after all? It was common to have families of ten or higher a couple of centuries ago. Before the rise of modern media, manhood was defined by the number of children one had (poorer countries still hold this notion). This proved to be a problem for infertile men no doubt. George Washington is a good example of this. While he could not prove his manhood by fertility, he chose the battlefield and relentlessly pursued ?honor? to obtain it. If one worships sex and finds that as the passageway into Manhood, one is destined for the Matriarchy because you give women all the power to define your manliness.

6) Men desire the Matriarchy because they want to be seen as a ?winner? and laugh at the ?losers?. The Matriarchy does its fine share of shaming. Generally, any man who chooses not to participate and devote his free time with women will be shamed in some way. Any time not spent with or for women must be ?earned?. If you want to watch a football game, you must ?earn? it by previously doing some deed for the wife or girlfriend. These men will believe everything women say about the so-called losers of the Matriarchy. They will laugh at the ?virgins?, label them as losers and mock them (and these virgins have done no wrong to them except to choose not to interact with women on that level). They will mock the starving artist or struggling entrepreneur for the ?fantastic? wage slave that they are. The Matriarchy has a defined set of ?winners? and ?losers?. Many men desire to be on top to laugh at losers. Pointing out the Matriarchy to these men is the hardest because they don?t want to see that THEY might actually be losers. They don?t want to possibly believe that a FEMALE has been controlling and dictating life?s terms to them. This desire for Matriarchial pride and relishing of Matriarchial scorn for its ?losers? will easily swallow men into the Matriarchy, and these are the hardest to break free.

What is the solution to not be sucked into the Matriarchy? It is to wear the armor of humility (resisting the temptation to have an arrogant soul) and to have a sword of your dreams (where you be who you are). With this, a man becomes invincible to the Matriarchy and other men watch at the demigod in disbelief. How does he do it? Why does he walk so confidently? It is because he followed the Pookish First Commandment: BE WHO YOU ARE.

Work for your dreams or you?ll end up working for someone else?s.

posted by Pook at 12:23 AM

--
Barbarus hic ergo sum, quia non intellegor ulli.

Why Men Fall into the Trap of Matriarchy

aus: Pooks Mill

At a time when everyone seemingly dons tattered arrogant souls, when, in
order to feast on the height of their self-seen greatness, everyone yields
to their usual brainwashed tropes. In the Matriarchy, there are two: the
Grand Career and the Grand Household.

The Grand Career is not a ?job? but something more ?glorious?. A plumber
is a job, but a lawyer is a ?career?. Never-mind that a plumber can get
good money and adds more to society than many lawyers, the difference
between a ?job? and ?career? these days is image. Women, who worship the
image, will excitedly pursue these careers. But in the end, a ?career? in
that traditional sense is often a losing situation. It is the trap of the
Wage Slave.

The Grand Household (notice how I did not say ?Grand Family?) is the big
McMansion, this is the Perfect Wedding, and this is the 1.6 kids with a
1.1 dog. Not only women desire this but so do many men. Some prefer the
Grand Household over the Grand Career and vice versa (many women want
both). But both of these are life not coming from your soul, from YOU
BEING YOU, but from a pre-existing template.

I wondered, ?How can people live their lives refusing to be who they are,
by rejecting their own soul and passion by desiring a pre-made life?? The
answer is that they all see the Grand Career and Grand Household as THE
SUCCESS. Everyone is scared of being seen a ?loser? so they all desire
?success? (which is why woman?s biggest shame tactic is saying a guy lives
with Mom at home. While there is nothing to envy in this man?s position, it
is highly preferable than to be a man convicted of murder, of crimes, of
furious sins, yet these are the ?men? many skanks desire due to the
rebellious image they hold.)

Is a Grand Career the ?true success?? Maybe, if it is truly what you love
to do. But keep in mind that there is no job security these days. You can
easily get fired from your job. And no matter how much money you earn on
your ?Grand Career?, the owners of the business always make more. You will
never become rich by having the ?Grand Career? (unless you become some star
like a famous actor and the probability of that occurring is very low). Why
should I invest my life in making someone else rich? Why not invest my life
in making MYSELF rich?

Is the Grand Household the ?true success?? Again, maybe, if it is truly
what you want. But also keep in mind that everyone else has the same
cookie-cutter home with a similar dog. If this wasn?t the case, then why
would sitcoms prove to be so universal? Also, again, this is the life of
image. It is the picture of the ?family? (with dog) sitting on the
fireplace mantle. Can your life be defined by a picture? Many people think
so.

Women get sucked into the Matriarchy for the obvious reasons. But why do
men (especially in the Anglosphere) get sucked into the Matriarchy?

1) They have no passion in life. They have no dreams, no goals, no vision.
They do have sexual desire which is the closest they?ve felt to passion. In
fact, they misuse the word ?passion? as to mean sexual desire. If your
passion in life is only women, you will be sucked into the Matriarchy.

2) They have small souls and desire validation. Sexual desire can be
treated in numerous ways: masturbation, pornos, prostitutes, visiting
other countries, and so on and so on. Women will employ shame tactics
against any way that doesn?t benefit them. The Way is HER way. Marriage is
usually the only proper way for her. In the last few decades, even the
?player? is now considered ?proper? by women. Many women do want
no-strings attached sex and players easily provide it. Players also are
ones who desire validation. They seek only sexual validation, however and,
like the Nice Guy, have a very small soul (since they are so easily
manipulated even though they think it is the other way around).

3) They see progress only with their eyes. Many people are not interested
in becoming rich. They are only interested in LOOKING rich. This is why
many go into massive debt buying a fancy new car, huge house, or something
else trivial. Real wealth is time. But you cannot see ?time? so people
never consider their most precious asset. Although I love my father much,
he was very foolish with his time. Where I grew up, we had acres that had
to be cut. I hated cutting all that lawn. My father, however, loved it.
The reason why was that he could SEE the difference of cutting. This
explains why I think many people LOVE yard-work or housework. It also
explains why people will invest hours into MMORPGs but not the usual video
game. Other people can SEE their ?improvements? in the MMORPG while in the
usual video game one remains invisible. The Matriarchy worships the
visible, not the invisible. The visible components are all celebrated
(materialism, the ?compassion? traits of religion) but not the invisible
(the thinking, the intelligence, or even religion?s worship of the
spirit). Body building gains so much fandom from girls because they can
SEE it. Body building, to me, is much easier than say reading ancient
history or understanding business. Yet, the Matriarchy yields to the
visible, not the invisible. Men, who think progress is only detected
through the eyes, are destined for the Matriarchy.

4) Men desire the X, Y, Z lifestyle. As children, through school and
through jobs, we are taught to think in the X, Y, Z fashion. This means
that in order to reach the conclusion, we must do X, then Y, and then
finally Z. This is the ?step by step? book. This is also the instruction
manual. Many men find this linear style thinking relaxing and orderly. But
this is the thinking of a slave, not a free man. In freedom, there is no X,
Y, Z life. There is no ladder. Men who think this way yearn for a system to
work within. With women, they want to work the system and WIN with women
doing the X, Y, Z steps. On Sosuave, I was constantly flooded with private
messages asking ?WHY DON?T YOU GIVE ME DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS!? STOP WITH
THIS GENERALIZED TALK!!!? What they were truly asking me was, ?Tell me the
rules that are to be obeyed to have success.? I inform them, ?It is time
for you to create your own rules for life. If you do not, you will enter
the woman?s rules by default.? These ?woman?s rules? are the Matriarchy.

5) Many men worship sex and female companionship as if it were the
greatest achievement in life, that it alone makes them a ?man?. I am
always amazed at the vagina worship by young males. However, don?t bother
to criticize this view as these type of men are very sensitive and will
lash back, ?Don?t you enjoy getting laid?? These men foolishly believe
that winning with women is the same as winning with life. It isn?t. You
can win with women and still lose in life. Somehow, someway, placing one?s
male appendage into a woman?s yahoo has been made out to be the ?height of
manhood?. I blame movies and modern music for this. The only ?sexual
revolution? has been the complete annihilation of fertility. I get a
chuckle when young people today say that people in the 40s and 50s were
puritanical and didn?t have sex. Where did the Baby Boom generation come
from after all? It was common to have families of ten or higher a couple
of centuries ago. Before the rise of modern media, manhood was defined by
the number of children one had (poorer countries still hold this notion).
This proved to be a problem for infertile men no doubt. George Washington
is a good example of this. While he could not prove his manhood by
fertility, he chose the battlefield and relentlessly pursued ?honor? to
obtain it. If one worships sex and finds that as the passageway into
Manhood, one is destined for the Matriarchy because you give women all the
power to define your manliness.

6) Men desire the Matriarchy because they want to be seen as a ?winner?
and laugh at the ?losers?. The Matriarchy does its fine share of shaming.
Generally, any man who chooses not to participate and devote his free time
with women will be shamed in some way. Any time not spent with or for women
must be ?earned?. If you want to watch a football game, you must ?earn? it
by previously doing some deed for the wife or girlfriend. These men will
believe everything women say about the so-called losers of the Matriarchy.
They will laugh at the ?virgins?, label them as losers and mock them (and
these virgins have done no wrong to them except to choose not to interact
with women on that level). They will mock the starving artist or
struggling entrepreneur for the ?fantastic? wage slave that they are. The
Matriarchy has a defined set of ?winners? and ?losers?. Many men desire to
be on top to laugh at losers. Pointing out the Matriarchy to these men is
the hardest because they don?t want to see that THEY might actually be
losers. They don?t want to possibly believe that a FEMALE has been
controlling and dictating life?s terms to them. This desire for
Matriarchial pride and relishing of Matriarchial scorn for its ?losers?
will easily swallow men into the Matriarchy, and these are the hardest to
break free.

What is the solution to not be sucked into the Matriarchy? It is to wear
the armor of humility (resisting the temptation to have an arrogant soul)
and to have a sword of your dreams (where you be who you are). With this,
a man becomes invincible to the Matriarchy and other men watch at the
demigod in disbelief. How does he do it? Why does he walk so confidently?
It is because he followed the Pookish First Commandment: BE WHO YOU ARE.

Work for your dreams or you?ll end up working for someone else?s.

posted by Pook at 12:23 AM

Warum Falle? Im Matriarchat geht es sowohl Männern als auch Frauen besser. Das hat auch Cassandra von Femfacts herausgefunden. Obwohl es ein weltumspannendes Matriarchat wohl nie gegeben hat. Gemeinsames Kennzeichen der bisherigen Matriarchate ist Hierarchiefreiheit, Gewaltverzicht und behutsamer Umgang mit den Ressourcen der Mutter Natur.

Melanie Sophia

Warum Falle? Im Matriarchat geht es sowohl Männern als auch Frauen besser.
Das hat auch Cassandra von Femfacts herausgefunden. Obwohl es ein
weltumspannendes Matriarchat wohl nie gegeben hat. Gemeinsames Kennzeichen
der bisherigen Matriarchate ist Hierarchiefreiheit, Gewaltverzicht und
behutsamer Umgang mit den Ressourcen der Mutter Natur.

Melanie Sophia

Mädel, red' keinen Stuss.
dass Naturvölker sorgsamer mit der Natur umgegangen sind ist ein lange schon wiederlegter Mythos. Der Punkt ist, dass damals einfach so wenig Menschen lebten, dass sie keinen größeren Schaden anrichten konnten, obwohl es schon in recht frühen Zeiten durch extensive Landwirtschaft zu Bodenerosionen kam.
Frauen können so sein, wie sie sind, weil es Männer gibt, die ihnen das Grobe abnehmen. Müßten Frauen ohne Männer zurecht kommen, müßten sie sich verändern und wären in kurzer Zeit nicht mehr von den Männern zu unterscheiden. Das männliche Wesen ist die Antwort auf ein Problem. Verschwinden die Männer, so bleibt das Problem, die wilde, gefährliche Welt. Löst die Art dieses Problem nicht, verschwindet die Art.
Männer saugen an der Welt. Frauen saugen an den Männern. Frauen sind eine Art Parasiten, so wie Kinder an den Frauen parasitieren. So läuft der Job. Nichts zu machen.

DschinDschin

--
Barbarus hic ergo sum, quia non intellegor ulli.

Hallo

Warum Falle? Im Matriarchat geht es sowohl Männern als auch Frauen besser.
Das hat auch Cassandra von Femfacts herausgefunden. Obwohl es ein
weltumspannendes Matriarchat wohl nie gegeben hat. Gemeinsames Kennzeichen
der bisherigen Matriarchate ist Hierarchiefreiheit, Gewaltverzicht und
behutsamer Umgang mit den Ressourcen der Mutter Natur.

Matriarchat ist wie Sozialismuss. Allen geht es gleich schlecht.

Rainer

PS: Gesellschaften die eher als matriarchalisch bezeichnet werden, kennen
keine Gnade. Für Vergehen gibt es in der Regel die Todesstrafe. Z.B. die
Hopie (Hopie bedeutet Frieden).

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Kazet heißt nach GULAG jetzt Guantánamo

Warum Falle? Im Matriarchat geht es sowohl Männern als auch Frauen besser.
Das hat auch Cassandra von Femfacts herausgefunden. Obwohl es ein
weltumspannendes Matriarchat wohl nie gegeben hat. Gemeinsames Kennzeichen
der bisherigen Matriarchate ist Hierarchiefreiheit, Gewaltverzicht und
behutsamer Umgang mit den Ressourcen der Mutter Natur.

Ja ja, die grosse forscherin Cassandra. Da werden die Irokesen
zu einem volk mit matriarchat. Und schaut man mal in Wikipedia
unter Biberkriege nach, findet man folgenden text:

... war eine unterbrochene Folge von Konflikten, welche zwischen 1640 und 1701 im östlichen Nordamerika zwischen der Konföderation der Irokesen und ihren mit Frankreich verbündeten Nachbarstämmen ausgetragen wurde.
...
Die Kriege waren auf beiden Seiten von extremer Brutalität geprägt und werden als eine der blutigsten Auseinandersetzungen in der Geschichte von Nordamerika betrachtet. Die Expansion der Irokesen unter der Führung des Mohawk-Stammes und die Vertreibung der unterlegenen Stämme mischte die Stammesgeographie in ganz Nordamerika neu.

Ausserdem ist die gesellschaftliche struktur mir viel zu ähnlich zu dem, was
Klaus_z so vorschwebt. In Wikipedia unter Haudenosaunee:

Die Haudenosaunee haben eine starke, für Einzelpersonen kaum durchbrechbare geschlechtliche Arbeitsteilung. So sind die Frauen für die Häuser und die Landwirtschaft zuständig, während die Männer der Jagd und anderen Aufgaben nachgehen, die ein Verlassen des Klanlandes erforderlich machen.

Nein, in einer solchen gesellschaft geht es männeren keineswegs besser
als in modernen gesellschaften. Auf sowas kann ich gut verzichten.

Warum Falle? Im Matriarchat geht es sowohl Männern als auch Frauen

besser.

Das hat auch Cassandra von Femfacts herausgefunden. Obwohl es ein
weltumspannendes Matriarchat wohl nie gegeben hat. Gemeinsames

Kennzeichen

der bisherigen Matriarchate ist Hierarchiefreiheit, Gewaltverzicht und
behutsamer Umgang mit den Ressourcen der Mutter Natur.

Ja ja, die grosse forscherin Cassandra. Da werden die Irokesen
zu einem volk mit matriarchat. Und schaut man mal in Wikipedia
unter Biberkriege nach, findet man folgenden text:

... war eine unterbrochene Folge von Konflikten, welche zwischen 1640 und
1701 im östlichen Nordamerika zwischen der Konföderation der Irokesen und
ihren mit Frankreich verbündeten Nachbarstämmen ausgetragen wurde.
...
Die Kriege waren auf beiden Seiten von extremer Brutalität geprägt und
werden als eine der blutigsten Auseinandersetzungen in der Geschichte von
Nordamerika betrachtet. Die Expansion der Irokesen unter der Führung des
Mohawk-Stammes und die Vertreibung der unterlegenen Stämme mischte die
Stammesgeographie in ganz Nordamerika neu.

Ausserdem ist die gesellschaftliche struktur mir viel zu ähnlich zu dem,
was
Klaus_z so vorschwebt. In Wikipedia unter Haudenosaunee:

Die Haudenosaunee haben eine starke, für Einzelpersonen kaum
durchbrechbare geschlechtliche Arbeitsteilung. So sind die Frauen für die
Häuser und die Landwirtschaft zuständig, während die Männer der Jagd und
anderen Aufgaben nachgehen, die ein Verlassen des Klanlandes erforderlich
machen.

Nein, in einer solchen gesellschaft geht es männeren keineswegs besser
als in modernen gesellschaften. Auf sowas kann ich gut verzichten.

Im Kreisverband arbeiten wir an einer besseren Welt, eine Welt in der Platz für alle ist und niemand leiden muss.

Cleo

Hallo allerseits!

Zum Ausgangsposting folgende Anmerkungen:

3) They see progress only with their eyes. Many people are not interested
in becoming rich. They are only interested in LOOKING rich.

Will der Autor hier implizit sagen, wer wirklich er selbst sein wolle, müsse materiell reich werden? Entspräche ja dem amerikanischen Lebensstil. Ich bezweifle jedoch sowohl, daß materieller Reichtum der (einzige) Weg zur Selbstfindung ist, als auch, daß man die Leiter des Reichtums überhaupt emporklimmen kann, ohne unterwegs immer seinen Kotau vor den von Frauen aufgestellten Regeln zu machen.

Frage nebenbei:

Wofür steht die Abkürzung MMORPG?

5) Many men worship sex and female companionship as if it were the
greatest achievement in life, that it alone makes them a ?man?. I am
always amazed at the vagina worship by young males. However, don?t bother
to criticize this view as these type of men are very sensitive and will
lash back, ?Don?t you enjoy getting laid?? These men foolishly believe
that winning with women is the same as winning with life. It isn?t. You
can win with women and still lose in life. Somehow, someway, placing one?s
male appendage into a woman?s yahoo has been made out to be the ?height of
manhood?. I blame movies and modern music for this. The only ?sexual
revolution? has been the complete annihilation of fertility. I get a
chuckle when young people today say that people in the 40s and 50s were
puritanical and didn?t have sex. Where did the Baby Boom generation come
from after all? It was common to have families of ten or higher a couple
of centuries ago. Before the rise of modern media, manhood was defined by
the number of children one had (poorer countries still hold this notion).
This proved to be a problem for infertile men no doubt. George Washington
is a good example of this. While he could not prove his manhood by
fertility, he chose the battlefield and relentlessly pursued ?honor? to
obtain it. If one worships sex and finds that as the passageway into
Manhood, one is destined for the Matriarchy because you give women all the
power to define your manliness.

Hier sehe ich einen Widerspruch zwischen dem ersten und dem zweiten von mir fett formatierten Fragment des Zitats:

Einerseits scheint der Autor die "guten alten Zeiten" zu preisen, in denen viele Kinder geboren wurden.

Andererseits konstatiert der Autor ein paar Zeilen später, wer Sex für das Wichtigste halte, lande in der Matriarchatsfalle.

Im Gesamtzusammenhang ließe sich dieser Widerspruch vielleicht dahingehend auflösen, daß nicht Sex als solcher, sondern Kinder als Resultat des Sex das Wichtigste seien.

Dies wiederum würde jedoch des Autors Belustigung über die Behauptung, in den 40er und 50er Jahren seien die Leute prüde gewesen und hätten keinen Sex gehabt, selbst der Lächerlichkeit preisgeben:

Es besteht eben kein zwingender Zusammenhang zwischen einem aktiven Sexleben und der Kinderzahl.

Man kann einen "Sack voll Kinder" haben und für jedes dieser Kinder - um es ganz auf die Spitze zu treiben - nur einmal kopuliert haben.

Man kann jede Menge Spaß an Sex haben und Kinder verhüten.

Und man kann natürlich auch beides verbinden - jede Menge Spaß am Sex haben und dabei viele Kinder in die Welt setzen.

Das Erziehungsideal allerdings ging eindeutig in Richtung Variante 1, und es steht zu vermuten, daß dieses Ideal seine Wirkung entfaltet hat und die Behauptung eines Nebeneinanders von Kinderreichtum und Prüderie so lächerlich nicht ist.

6) Men desire the Matriarchy because they want to be seen as a ?winner?
and laugh at the ?losers?. The Matriarchy does its fine share of shaming.
Generally, any man who chooses not to participate and devote his free time
with women will be shamed in some way. Any time not spent with or for women
must be ?earned?. If you want to watch a football game, you must ?earn? it
by previously doing some deed for the wife or girlfriend. These men will
believe everything women say about the so-called losers of the Matriarchy.
They will laugh at the ?virgins?, label them as losers and mock them (and
these virgins have done no wrong to them except to choose not to interact
with women on that level). They will mock the starving artist or
struggling entrepreneur for the ?fantastic? wage slave that they are. The
Matriarchy has a defined set of ?winners? and ?losers?. Many men desire to
be on top to laugh at losers. Pointing out the Matriarchy to these men is
the hardest because they don?t want to see that THEY might actually be
losers. They don?t want to possibly believe that a FEMALE has been
controlling and dictating life?s terms to them. This desire for
Matriarchial pride and relishing of Matriarchial scorn for its ?losers?
will easily swallow men into the Matriarchy, and these are the hardest to
break free.

Im Prinzip Zustimmung, nur:

Ich halte es für eine Katastrophe, wenn - wie in einem anderen Thread ausgeführt - viele Männer im Alter von über 40 noch gar keinen oder äußerst wenig Geschlechtsverkehr hatten.

Daß hiervon nach Odins Feststellung viele Männer betroffen sind, nimmt diesem Umstand nicht seinen Katastrophencharakter, sondern zeigt das Ausmaß der Katastrophe.

"Onanie ist Revolution " - lautet meine Signatur in anderen Foren. Aber auch diese Revolution sollte in meinen Augen kein Dauerzustand sein, sondern dazu führen, daß Sex nicht mehr, wie heute, von den Männern zu meistens erniedrigenden Bedingungen erkämpft werden muß, sondern beiderseits geschenkt wird. Zum Geschäftemachen gibt's genug andere Lebensbereiche!

Irgendwo habe ich mal gelesen, das Judentum postuliere, ein Mann solle am besten jeden Tag, auf jeden Fall aber so oft wie möglich mit seiner Frau koitieren, weil er dadurch innerlich frei werde für höhere geistige Dinge.

Nicht wahr - das ist eine uns ganz unvertraute Sicht auf Sexualität.

Und meines Erachtens die einzige, die weiterhilft.

Gruß

Ekki

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Lustschreie sind mir wichtiger als Babygeplärr.

Warum Falle? Im Matriarchat geht es sowohl Männern als auch Frauen besser.
Das hat auch Cassandra von Femfacts herausgefunden.

Ach ja, dann....

Obwohl es ein

weltumspannendes Matriarchat wohl nie gegeben hat. Gemeinsames Kennzeichen
der bisherigen Matriarchate ist Hierarchiefreiheit, Gewaltverzicht und
behutsamer Umgang mit den Ressourcen der Mutter Natur.

Freie Abtreibung, Kindesmisshandlung durch Vaterentzug und Leibeigenschaft des Kindes nicht zu vergessen.

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Wofür steht die Abkürzung MMORPG?

Du ahnungsloser! Ohne MMORPG hätte das Leben gar keinen Sinn

Leider muss ich noch bis 2007 warten - dann ist erst mal wieder 5 Jahre virtuelle Welt angesagt - so wies bei EQ1 war, so wirds wieder:

www.vanguard-soh.com

Momentane MMORPGs sind World of Warcraft, Guild wars, Everquest 2 usw.

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Wofür steht die Abkürzung MMORPG?

Guck mal hier - Wiki weiß es. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG

gn

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CETERUM CENSEO FEMINISMUM ESSE DELENDUM.

MÖSE=BÖSE

Fast ein Jahr lang suchte sie Hilfe bei Psychiatern, dann wandte sie sich Allah zu.

Im Kreisverband arbeiten wir an einer besseren Welt, eine Welt in der
Platz für alle ist und niemand leiden muss.

Cleo

Hummm, das ist aber ganz schön frauenfeindlich !

Scipio

Hallo Dschindschin

Frauen können so sein, wie sie sind, weil es Männer gibt, die ihnen das
Grobe abnehmen. Müßten Frauen ohne Männer zurecht kommen, müßten sie sich
verändern und wären in kurzer Zeit nicht mehr von den Männern zu
unterscheiden. Das männliche Wesen ist die Antwort auf ein Problem.
Verschwinden die Männer, so bleibt das Problem, die wilde, gefährliche
Welt. Löst die Art dieses Problem nicht, verschwindet die Art.

Das ist eine sehr wichtige Erkenntnis. Feministinnen tun oft so, als existierten Männer und Frauen völlig unabhängig voneinander. Viele bilden sich daraufhin etwas auf ihr Frausein ein und denken dabei gar nicht daran, dass sie ohne Männer gar nicht so sein könnten, wie sie sind. Männer werden dann für Dinge (Umweltverschmutzung, Krieg) verurteilt, für die eigentlich die Spezies Mensch verurteilt werden müsste. Dabei handelt es sich meistens um reine Selbsterhöhung auf Kosten anderer.

Gruß, Gismatis

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